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发表于 2007-2-25 12:19:41
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看来这次行程不能包括Shi shi了，时间不够。原来计划第二天早上坐Shuttle bus到Rialto然后开走的安排也不合理，因为第一天的行程最难(from Rialto to Cedar Creek,8.8miles)，还有好几处潮汐问题，我们需要早早就从Rialto出发。这样第一天晚上就到South Trailhead(Rialto)扎营第二天直接开始走(第一天下午到Ozette后即坐Shuttle Bus到Rialto)，这样后面的安排就从容很多。如果有可能的话，还可以第一天就走个１mile到Ellen Creek扎营(想过走更远些到Chilean扎营，但不可能，1.营地不够大，2.第一天时间远不够这样做),
这样安排，在西雅图的citywander
1. citywander在Rialto和我们会合(周五晚／夜)，在和我们走完三天后，我们绕些路(来回共多开~70km)送你回到Rialto取完车我们再回温哥华.
2.要么citywander多请一天假(周五)
请同行的伙伴们读一下OCT-North Route Description以对我们的行程有所了解, 谢谢!
http://download.yousendit.com/A25DE4B674CD7731
朋友Scott的emails：
Hi Gloria,
I just have time for a quick note here. I wanted to let you know about the flaw in your plan. Time.
You will be hard pressed to do Day 1 as planned. We rarely get to Port Angeles much before noon - despite heading out at 6:00 am. There is the border, buying food in America, ferries, lunch and then the slow roads on the Olympic Peninsula.
It takes longer than you think to get places on the OP because the roads are small and twisty.
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You also have to decide which ferry to take. There is the one at Kennedy and the one at Pt Townsend.
I will get back to you with more details later.
Scott
Gloria,
There are two possible ferries. Last time we took the southern one on the way down and the northern one on the way back.
The problem with the Whidby Island one（Port Townsend / Keystone ）is that it is small an infrequent. If you check the timetable on the WA State ferry map, some of the departures are cancelled because of tides (I checked April and there aren't any cancellations so that is good). You also may not get on because it is full. That means that you will want to get there early to be sure to get on. The drive down Whidby Island seems to take forever. From the time you hit Whidby Island, to the trailheads on the peninsula, I would estimate that you would be averaging 70-75km/hr. The roads are windy and you could end up behind a slow driver.
In order to get to Port Angeles much before noon, you would have to catch the 8:45 ferry. We haven't had the fortune to get it yet. We always end up on the 10:15.
The southern ferry is big and goes every 30 minutes or so, but you have to drive almost all the way to Seattle.
In the end we thought that they were equivalent. Which one you take depends on your needs and timing.
In the past the border guards have taken some of our food. One time they even took a can of soup from us. As a result, we usually buy our food at Albertson's in Port Angeles. This takes time. If you have food that they won't take - that should save some time.
The only realistic way to get to Shi Shi is from the north. On the way through the reserve you have to buy a tribal pass from any of the stores. You can park your car at the trailhead if you are just there for a dayhike. We have to pay $5/day for parking on on an Indian's lawn down the road when we camp overnight. If you leave the car at the trailhead overnight, the Indians will vandalize it.
There is a 20-30 minute hike to get to the beach. I can tell you a shortcut if you are interested.
The beach is amazing. It is three miles to get to the Point of Arches. They have the best tidal pools that we have ever seen.
The Ozette River is way past the Point of Arches and it is my understanding from my research that in the spring it is quite difficult/dangerous to cross (in case you are planning to backpack the entire distance). There are updates on it posted on the official website for the park. I have read that some people have found another way around it, but it involves an indistinct trail and a lot of bushwacking and time.
I will attach some photos. There is lots of wildlife. You will see lots of deer on the beach. Look for seals that body surf in the waves. Eagles are everywhere.
Scott
NWhikers上的有帮助的回贴：
strider
You have laid out a VERY ambitious itinerary. If your goal is just to thru-hike the beach, then your plan will work but you will have little time to enjoy the reality, and you will work very hard for what you enjoy. If you want some time to absorb the beauty you will be walking thru, I recommend you adjust your plans.
I have done all of the coastal areas you have in mind, and I would bypass ShiShi for this trip / time window. It will take all of your available days to appropriately enjoy the North section of the beach. There is nothing at ShiShi that is more impressive than what you will see between Rialto and Ozette.
Coming from Rialto, the first viable campsite is in the bay at at Chilean Memorial but the camping space at Chilean is very limited in the winter. Campsites that are up off of the beach are few at the Chilean area, and those few sites are very small. Even in April it is very risky camping on the beach itself due to the risk of storms pushing the ocean over the beach (and over your tent). If you are a large group and you stay at Chilean, you run the risk of being forced to huddle on the sidehill in the brush, all night, with little shelter and no hope of a flat spot for tenting. The ocean has forced me to do this at Chilean in the past and it is NOT fun.
However, things may have changed since I was last there. You should check with the rangers regarding campsites between Rialto and Lookout Point/Cedar Creek area..... and pay close attention to their advice. If you are a small group, Chilean might work, but if you have any size to the group, you should plan on a Very Big first day - with an EARLY start at the Mora trailhead - and get past Never-Round-Point at least.
If you do so (early start, go a long way the first day, work with the low tides, make the Lookout Pont/Cedar Creek area on the first day, even if it means playing games with the avalable daylight) the rest of the trip will be easier. Going from Mora to the area north of Lookout is a BIG DAY, it will involve lots of rock hopping, over 8 miles of distance, avoiding the high tides, rounding points only roundable at lower tides..... very complicated.
BUT - once you get there .... the payoff is good. Fom the area above Never-Round / Lookout north to Norewegian Memorial, the terrain is much easier to manage and you can take your time and enjoy things. There are good stretches of walking beach from Never-Round to Norwegian, manageable at all but the highest of high tides. North of Norwegain, there is 3+ miles of rock hopping before you reach Yellow Banks. You can camp at Yellow, or go further to the camp sites at Sand Point.
Passing on the ShiShi dayhike (and the extra driving involved) should give you the time to do the additional beach hike between Sand Point and Alava. See the petroglyphs, then walk out the Alava trail. From either Sand Point or Alava, it's an easy 3 mile walk to the trailhead. There are no issues with fording any creeks along this stretch of the coastline. From either Sand Pint or Alava, you will strike inland for your car well South of the mouth of the Osette River.
Take a tarp or two, and extra line to fly them in the air. Having a dry communal camp area is a HUGE plus, much better than hiding in the tents from the rain. Take lots of fire starter as well. If it's raining, it will be RAINING, and a fire can make all the difference....
My last comment; 8 miles along an up-down trail in the mountains is much easier than 8 miles along the Oly seahsore. Rock hopping on slick ocean shoreline, and beach slogging thru pea gravel, is much harder than one might think .... unless you've done it before - in which case you know what I am talking about....
Shacknasty Jim
[quote]mazeGirl
Is it possible for us to try Shi Shi if we can get to WIC @Port Angeles before noon?
It's possible in the same way it might be possible that I one day prefer full-time employment vis-a-vis part-time, dead-end jobs.
Doing some rough calculation, I didn't think you could start your dayhike to Shi Shi before 2 PM. That includes a stop-off in Neah Bay for the reservation permit (P/U at the Makah Museum or Washburn's grocery, both prominent and on the left side of 112). Assuming 3-4 hours on the Shi Shi hike, you can see where that leaves you. It's not that short of a ride from the trailhead back to Ozette. And keep in mind, on your dayhike, you likely won't be able to reach the best part of the beach - Point of Arches.
Another option to consider is going straight to Ozette, set up camp and head out to Cape Alava. When doing the backpack from Rialto, exit at Sand Point, thus avoiding any overlap between the two trips.[/quote]
GeoHiker
From Shi shi back to Ozette is on 112 and then another 22 miles to Ozette that will take you several hours. These are winding narrow roads, so don't plan on getting any where fast. That might be a bit ambitious for your first day.
Another option would be to stay at Neah Bay. The Hobuck River Campground about 2 miles from the Shi shi parking area has been rebuilt with new cabins and bathroom/showers, so that's an option. Plus you'll be right on the ocean. I didn't camp there, but drove through and checked it out and it got my :up: :up: for pay spots. $15 a night. Ozette Lk is now charging $10 a night in off season.
Don't miss Cape Flattery!.....I wouldn't rush through that area. The beaches are wonderful and early April will have few people about.
GeoHiker
I was out that way last week check out my TR from Feb. 16 I only poked around the Makah area. There's a nice trail head parking lot for Shi Shi, but the signs warn not to park overnight. I parked/camped on the beach about 3/4 of a mile from the TH. There were several signs up offering parking for $5 a day and $10 overnight.
There was a truck at the TH that parked overnight, so I guess you take your chances. This area has long been known as a trouble spot for access and break ins. Hy 112 is in decent shape. Several areas that have slid in the past have been repaired and the storm damage is evident with numerous cleared trees down. |
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